First you may have missed: Scream and the Symbiotes

In today's edition of first you may have missed I am going to give you not one but 5 first in a small package. I like to call them the “rainbow” symbiotes from Venom: Lethal Protector. Some of this may not be new to you if you read a lot of Marvel in the 90's but also some movie tidbits that help add to the spec. Here we go with some “First of fury”.

We know Venom has a live-action film coming. While I am a fan of both Tom Hardy and Venom I can't help but feel a little uneasy about the upcoming movie. Borrowing from the Lethal Protector storyline, what new characters are we likely to get on screen for the first time? Everyone is holding on to the female Venom but what if another female symbiote is actually the breakout star of the film? Before Manic, before Mania, before Anti-Venom, Agent Venom, or any of the many other symbiotes (except Carnage) we had Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher, and Agony. If you don't know who these colorful band of symbiotes are, think of them as an evil venomized version of the Scooby-Doo gang.

First up we have Scream (Donna Diego), who first appeared in Venom: Lethal Protector #4. Sporting a bright yellow symbiote, she was a former soldier who was given the symbiote by the Life Foundation. Scream is not only the first of the five to appear but also has a bit more going for her. While everyone is distracted at the idea of She-Venom (Anna Weyang) appearing in the film, a lot of people are overlooking that two other female symbiotes are likely to be part of the story. I doubt we even see She-Venom at all for the main length of the film as Scream's comic book debut is before She-Venom and two actresses are already attached. Sailor Larocque and well-known motion capture specialist Michelle Lee who I assume will be playing the role in costume/CGI motion capture. Couple that with the fact that for some years now the Spider-Man ride at universal studios has featured Scream as one of the “Sinister Syndicate”, she is my pick to most likely see a bump in value and maybe even be brought back by Marvel (although I myself am over anything venom related).

The rest of the gang are sort of an afterthought. All appearing first in Venom: Lethal Protector #5. We have Agony (Leslie Gesneria), Lasher (Ramon Hernandez), Riot (Trevor Cole), and Phage (Carl Mach). Though short-lived either being killed or having their symbiotes merged into Toxin (a story for another time) the appearance of these 5 symbiotes together made for a shocking few stories and could be amazing on the big screen. If you played SNES and were a comic fan, chances are you played Maximum Carnage and Separation Anxiety. The latter focusing on the five symbiotes and taking countless hours of my life.

While Lethal Protector #1 gets its due in the market, copies of #4 and #5 are pretty cheap raw and maybe gems one day. The newsstand copies of course are harder to find and go for significantly more money. 9.8 direct editions are going for about what a first apperance of carnage was three years ago (and look at that book now.) So maybe there is still some meat on the bone but i wouldn't personally pay market or above for one. Spec with care especially as the movie approaches, this is a book you can find in bins and thats where i would pick it up.

As always thank you for your time and remember “It's better to have first and flip than to never have first at all” — Valiant Horton


  • Nice write up — is Raze gonna show up anywhere ?

    • Dale Valiant horton

      Thanks, i Have not heard any news on raze. Still a fairly new character, my guess is if carnage starts to get more mainstream there will be a possibility.

  • This was a nice write up. You forgot about Venom- Along Came a Spider #1, which is the first appearance of Hybrid (all four symbiotes merged into one new host). That’s already now a $150 book in a 9.8 and is the greater likely final battle symbiote in the Lethal Protector movie IMO.

    Speaking of 9.8’s, sure these books are plentiful in raw condition (with bar codes and otherwise, NOTHING from this era of comics is “rare”), the REAL challenge will be in finding these raw in 9.8 condition, as these books have been sitting around getting abused in dollar bins forever. Already full 9.8 sets of the LP series fetching $600. Good luck trying to put a 9.8 set individually for less than that (or anywhere near that) going forward.

    • Dale Valiant horton

      I agree finding 9.8’s in bins is a real challenge. Was planning to do a full write up on the first apperance of scott washington(new warriors 21)/hybrid(along came a spider #1) and Patrick mulligan/toxin(venom/carnage #1&2) in a later post. But great call, hybrid is a logical choice if they do introduce all the symbiots to film and a good book to own.

  • I will definitely look forward to seeing that article!

  • Great read as usual man! Always learn something new from you. Your education is too notch and easy to comprehend. Not going to lie, that evil version of the Scooby Doo gang had me LMAO!!

  • All the symbiotes appear last panel of #4

  • FYI the print run of Lethal Protector #1 is 1.5million I wouldn’t dump too much money into it.

    • Dale Valiant horton

      Thanks! I could not find print run numbers for 4,5 but going off the 1.5 mill for lethal Protector #1 it will be at least Asm 361 levels but some books are known to defy all logic in the spec world. With LP #1 selling near $100 in 9.8(not hard to find due to the card cover) i would say 9.8 #4 and #5 are fairly priced. But again i wouldn’t pay market for these books as i don’t believe in a venom movie. but if disney/marvel does acknowledge the movie and we get a seperation anxiety(featuring spider-man) i think that will push movement in these books. Very wishful thinking on my part.

  • The newsstand edition of #4 though is pretty hard to come by.

    Especially in high grade condition!

    That’s the one people should be going for!

  • Ben C

    Great read, thanks!!

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